He’s been called one of the world’s most radical optimists, a historian and bestselling author unafraid to question what we take for granted about success, power, and human nature.

In this expansive episode, Rutger Bregman joins Sarah Grynberg to share why he believes most people are kinder than we think, and how redefining success can transform not just our lives, but our world. From the hidden lessons of history to the moral ambition we all carry, Rutger reveals why hope is not naïve, but necessary.

You’ll learn:

*Why most of us are climbing the wrong ladder of success.

*How expanding our “moral circle” could solve the greatest challenges of our time.

*Why switching off the news might be the smartest step toward a better life.

This episode is an invitation to reimagine what it means to live with purpose and to discover how small acts of courage can ripple out into lasting change.